I recently had a disturbing online conversation with a Russian aeronautical expert on the subject of Ukraine. One can reasonably expect a Russian will have a different point of view on the subject than a westerner would… but this was an *experience.* In short: It’s good and proper that Russia exterminate the Ukrainian people, because their culture, history and identity don’t exist; they’re a fiction, it’s all part of Russia and Russias destiny to retake that plot of land. “The history of Ukraine began with the betrayal in Belovezhskaya Pushcha in 1991 and will end in 2023.” Any who stand against the Russians goals deserve death and the nuking of western/NATO cities would be a small price to pay for Russia reclaiming it’s former empire.
Yeesh.
And of course one of the main excuses for why the “special military operation” is a wonderful thing? The need to get rid of all the Nazis in Ukraine. Ukraine, under the leadership of a democratically elected feller who I understand to be a Jew, is somehow being controlled by Nazis. Uh-huh. After years of weirdo whackaloons here in the west constantly banging on about fascists and Nazis – by which they mean anyone with politics to the right of FDR – I have no sympathy for Russians bleating on about Nazis. Especially when *this* is who the Russians are sending into battle against the Ukrainian people:
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It’s bad enough that Russian leadership is clearly bugnuts, but that this has seeped out into the general populace is unnerving. I was told that Putin is felt to be too soft on the west, and: “If Kadyrov becomes president, the whole world will remember the beautiful and humane Vladimir Vladimirovich with tears.”
There have been more and more reports that NATO countries are running out of weapons and ammo. Again, this is both good and bad news. The bad is obvious. But the good is that the West is figuring this out *now* while our economies are still running and our factories are still standing. If the relatively tiny amount of ordnance the west is sending to Ukraine is drying up western armories… that’s a damned good sign that we need to start stocking up in a serious way.
4 responses to “That’s a weird way to “deNazify” Ukraine…”
rusky mir is a hell of a drug…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WEBwsuQf0
this guy can have his fantasies, but the facts are the russians have lost more than twice as many people (118.530) in 331 days of “special military operation” than the US lost ( 58,220 ) in the 19 years, 5 months, 4 weeks and 1 day of the Vietnam war.
that’s not sustainable.
They aren’t “bugnets.” They are brutal and paranoid, but not Insane.
Russia and Ukraine are together “Satan’s ant farm” every so often he gives it a good shake just to watch them suffer. This has resulted in Today’s Russia, which views its former borders as the only way to be safe from the “fascist” west that has a habit of invading them. Freddy, Nappy and a certain Austrian extrovert that ruined a perfectly good mustache. Speaking of extroverts, we should also mention the various steppe people including Genghis himself who came clippity clopping in from parts east just to get all stabby. As if this wasn’t bad enough, there was the absolutist Romanov dynasty who were having all kinds of fun extending the Middle Ages into the 20th century until the Communists decided they weren’t horrible enough and said, “hold my Vodka.”
The result of this is a very different outlook from our own. Peace comes when Russia is strong and the borders are far, far away. War comes when Russia is weak and the “fascists, and Tartars” can get at them. Ukraine is an interesting case. I had a professor who insisted Ukraine was part of Russia and there is an argument for this, although I reject it because the Communists killed my Grandmother’s family for owning a farm, so I don’t care what princelings went east or west from Kiev. The Rus were Swedish anyway, so save it for trivia night.
Okay, where was I… Damn rambling… anyhow, Different outlook. For many Russians, Ukraine is a must-have. Having it aligned with the west (Yes they ensured that, but the point remains.) is an existential threat as is the increasing western support for Ukraine. There is literally nothing they won’t do. If they think the end is coming one way or another, they will get desperate and do desperate things. People telling you otherwise have been reading our own brochures too much. They aren’t crazy, they are terrified and becoming desperate.
We need a way to give them an out, regardless of what happens to poor Ukraine because as I said, nothing we would find agreeable will be worth not “pushing the button” for the Russians. Think of the reverse, a good ole fashioned “Red Dawn” the US surrounded and diminished, communists closing in for the kill. I don’t know about you, but I’d push the button, let loose any fun germ I had and try any other way I had of saying “see you in hell” before I gave in…
Hopeful Vlad thinks like Biden and not me… But I don’t think so.
“Crazy” is looking at reality and seeing things that objectively aren’t there. Seeing a west that wants to invade Russia is crazy. Looking around the world and seeing Nazis everywhere is crazy. Buying into superstitious claptrap is crazy.
if anything, the one country right now looking at a weak russia as ripe for conquest is china. they’ll go to africa for tiny amounts of raw materials..what will they do when all of russia is available at bargain-basement prices and they can just drive there?